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Regulamentação da BSA e fraude: colmatando a lacuna, com Nyla Cortes

26 min

Olá, combatentes da fraude, e bem-vindos de volta ao Fraud Forward!

Este episódio é muito especial. Estamos ao vivo no Money 2020, e estou aqui em frente à Nyla Cortes, minha antiga colega de mesa dos tempos em que trabalhávamos numa cooperativa de crédito. Naquela época, apresentávamos juntos um podcast chamado THE TEA, uma sigla em inglês para treinamento, educação e conscientização. Nosso objetivo era traduzir o jargão de conformidade e prevenção a fraudes em conhecimento prático para o dia a dia, e é exatamente isso que voltamos a fazer hoje.

Nyla conhece a fundo a BSA e as normas de proteção ao consumidor. Eu entendo da parte de fraudes. Nesta conversa, falamos sobre o que acontece quando esses dois mundos trabalham isolados e o que muda quando começam a dialogar. Analisamos um caso de exploração financeira de uma pessoa idosa que me ensinou o motivo da existência de uma política, fazemos um jogo de «fraude ou conformidade» e abordamos contestações no âmbito do Regulamento E, movimentações em dinheiro e quem deve assumir a responsabilidade pelas áreas cinzentas. Se você já se perguntou como a regulamentação da BSA e o combate à fraude se conectam, este episódio é para você.

Fique até o final, porque Nyla tem novidades que queria compartilhar aqui em primeira mão. Vamos lá.

O que vai ouvir neste episódio:

  • Como uma equipa responsável pelo cumprimento da Lei do Sigilo Bancário (BSA) e uma equipa de combate à fraude trataram em conjunto um caso de exploração financeira de uma pessoa idosa, incluindo o encaminhamento para os serviços de proteção de adultos e a comunicação de atividade invulgar que permitiu à equipa de combate à fraude intervir.
  • Por que equipes de BSA e de combate à fraude que trabalham isoladamente geram trabalho duplicado e como uma melhor comunicação entre um responsável pela BSA e uma equipe de combate à fraude resolve esse problema.
  • O que significa, na prática, aproximar as equipes de BSA e de combate à fraude e por que não é preciso haver amizade entre elas.
  • Como as reclamações ao abrigo do Regulamento E, os prazos de crédito provisório e os períodos de investigação de 10 e 45 dias protegem os associados e as instituições.
  • Por que as contestações de transferências não autorizadas exigem tanto o cumprimento dos prazos regulamentares quanto uma investigação de fraude.
  • O que fazer quando um único dispositivo acede a uma dúzia de contas numa hora.
  • A quem pertence o dinheiro que entra e sai imediatamente sem um propósito claro, e por que motivo isso tem de ser definido pelas políticas.
  • O que aconteceu quando um associado chegou com 30.000 dólares em dinheiro e como a apresentação de um relatório de transações em numerário (CTR) se enquadra no contexto mais amplo.
  • Porque é que explicar os regulamentos numa linguagem simples ajuda as equipas de combate à fraude e de conformidade a trabalharem em conjunto.

Deve ouvir este episódio se:

  • Trabalha na área de fraude e quer entender por que a BSA nem sempre permite que você aja imediatamente
  • Trabalha na área de BSA ou de conformidade e quer melhorar a comunicação com a sua equipa de combate à fraude
  • É responsável ou analista de conformidade, está a dar os primeiros passos na área da BSA e quer que a regulamentação seja explicada de forma clara e simples
  • Trabalha numa cooperativa de crédito ou num banco comunitário e lida com reclamações ao abrigo do Regulamento E
  • Estão a decidir quem é responsável por uma situação ambígua, como entradas e saídas de dinheiro sem uma finalidade clara
Notas do episódio

O caso de exploração de uma pessoa idosa que me mostrou por que a regra existe

Nyla me pediu para citar um momento da minha carreira em que alguém tivesse me ajudado a entender as regras com clareza. Eu disse que essa pessoa tinha sido ela. Estávamos trabalhando em um caso de exploração financeira de uma pessoa idosa e, na nossa cooperativa de crédito, esse tipo de caso passava primeiro pela equipe responsável pela Lei de Sigilo Bancário (BSA). Eu trabalho na área de fraudes e queria intervir imediatamente. Não entendia por que precisava esperar. Nyla explicou a política e prometeu me encaminhar uma notificação de atividade incomum assim que a equipe de BSA entrasse em contato com os serviços de proteção a adultos. Isso era importante porque a conta continuava aberta e sendo usada, e a equipe de BSA não podia intervir nela. A equipe de fraudes podia. Esse encaminhamento também garantia que o caso não acabasse em uma fila em que um relatório de atividade suspeita (SAR) talvez fosse apresentado, talvez não. Quando entendi por que a regra existia, parei de questioná-la e comecei a usá-la.

Estreitar a ligação entre a área de BSA e a de combate à fraude

Nyla diz que as equipas de BSA e de combate à fraude continuam a ser dois grupos separados que comunicam muito pouco entre si. Nos casos de exploração financeira de idosos ou de roubo de identidade, o trabalho sobrepõe-se. Sem comunicação, todos acabam por duplicar o trabalho, e ninguém quer isso. Criar uma ponte entre BSA e o combate à fraude era o nosso lema na altura. Acho que tínhamos uma vantagem porque, antes de mais, gostávamos da pessoa por detrás do processo, e nem todas as equipas têm isso. Nyla lembra que não é preciso haver amizade para haver colaboração. Se aprender a falar a linguagem da outra pessoa, pode construir essa ponte.

Reg E, os prazos e por que a conformidade é uma vitória para o associado

Para o nosso jogo, apresentei um cenário à Nyla. Um cliente contesta uma transferência, alegando que nunca a autorizou. Nyla explica que as contestações abrangidas pelo Regulamento E estão sujeitas a prazos. A equipe de compliance acompanha as notificações e verifica se o crédito provisório é concedido dentro do prazo. A equipe de prevenção a fraudes acompanha a investigação, os padrões e se um estabelecimento está fazendo o mesmo com outros clientes. Gosto de ver que o período de investigação de 10 dias e o prazo de 45 dias protegem tanto o associado quanto a instituição. Esses prazos também podem revelar quando uma equipe está sobrecarregada. Se três pessoas precisam lidar com 50 casos por dia, a equipe de compliance pode defender a necessidade de mais recursos ou de novas tecnologias. Nyla me lembrou que o Regulamento E é uma norma de proteção ao consumidor criada para impedir que os bancos o prejudiquem. Compliance não é dedurar. É uma conquista para a cultura da organização.

Um dispositivo, uma dúzia de contas e o que significa compliance

O cenário seguinte era o de um único dispositivo a aceder a uma dúzia de contas numa hora. A resposta de Nyla foi: ambas as equipas. A equipa de prevenção de fraude deteta a atividade e acompanha o padrão, enquanto a equipa de conformidade quer saber se está ligada a algo maior. Acrescentei que a equipa de conformidade precisa de ser informada para compreender o risco do produto. A equipa poderá também ter de perguntar se os processos atuais permitem que alguém interrompa essa atividade. Isso pode envolver a equipa de pagamentos e até a gestão da relação com o fornecedor, com uma simples pergunta sobre se o fornecedor consegue detetar a atividade. Também esclarecemos o que entendemos por conformidade. Nyla diz que pode abranger a BSA, a gestão de risco e, por vezes, a prevenção de fraude, dependendo da estrutura da organização, além da conformidade regulamentar, da conformidade em matéria de proteção do consumidor e da conformidade na concessão de crédito.

Entradas e saídas de dinheiro: de quem é a responsabilidade pela zona cinzenta?

O último cenário envolvia dinheiro que entra e sai logo em seguida, sem uma finalidade clara. A equipa de compliance vê uma questão de monitorização, enquanto a equipa de fraude vê o risco de utilização de contas de mulas financeiras. Nyla diz que a resposta depende das políticas internas. A política relativa à BSA ou a política de combate à fraude tem de definir quem é responsável, e ambas as equipas podem assumir essa responsabilidade, pois trata-se de um risco diferente. Lembrei-me de um associado que entrou com 30.000 dólares em dinheiro no bolso. Eu queria chamar as autoridades policiais, mas Nyla disse que não, porque primeiro precisávamos de compreender o padrão. As transações tinham sido autorizadas, o que significava que, tecnicamente, não havia fraude. O passo seguinte era identificar o padrão e comunicá-lo, incluindo a apresentação do relatório de transações em numerário (CTR) relativo aos depósitos em dinheiro, no âmbito da BSA. Percebi que estava a olhar para uma única conta numa única instituição, e não para o panorama geral. Se ajudarmos as autoridades policiais ou os reguladores a ligar as peças do lado deles, estaremos a fazer a nossa parte.

Explicar as regras de forma clara e simples

A Nyla tem um dom para explicar regulamentos numa linguagem simples. Quando precisava de confirmar o que um regulamento realmente dizia, recorria a ela, porque lê-lo sozinho era como tentar decifrar grego. Começou a trabalhar na área de conformidade há 11 anos e diz que pode ser intimidante para quem está a começar, sobretudo para o responsável pela conformidade, de quem se espera que explique tudo ao resto da empresa. É por isso que uma explicação clara é tão importante para quem trabalha nas áreas de fraude, BSA e conformidade nas cooperativas de crédito. Quando uma equipa consegue explicar a outra o porquê das regras, estas deixam de parecer algo obscuro.

Principais conclusões
  • A colaboração entre as equipas de combate à fraude e de conformidade evita a duplicação de trabalho, especialmente em casos de exploração financeira de idosos e roubo de identidade.
  • Compreender por que uma regra existe facilita o seu cumprimento, como no caso de uma política que encaminha os casos de exploração financeira de idosos primeiro para a equipa responsável pela BSA.
  • Um encaminhamento de atividade atípica pela equipe responsável pela BSA pode dar à equipe de combate à fraude a oportunidade de agir sobre uma conta na qual a equipe da BSA não pode intervir.
  • A colaboração não exige amizade, mas exige aprender a linguagem da outra equipa.
  • As contestações ao abrigo do Regulamento E estão sujeitas a prazos, e a equipa de conformidade acompanha as notificações e os prazos de crédito provisório, enquanto a equipa de fraude investiga padrões.
  • O Regulamento E é uma norma de defesa do consumidor que protege os associados e também pode indicar quando uma equipa precisa de mais recursos.
  • Quando um único dispositivo acede a várias contas, tanto a equipa de prevenção de fraude como a de conformidade precisam de ser informadas, e a relação com o fornecedor pode ser parte da solução.
  • A área de conformidade pode abranger BSA, risco, proteção do consumidor, conformidade na concessão de crédito e, por vezes, prevenção de fraudes, dependendo da estrutura da organização.
  • O dinheiro que entra e sai imediatamente exige uma política que defina quem é responsável por ele, pois a equipe de prevenção a fraudes vê risco de uso de contas de laranjas, enquanto a equipe de compliance vê uma questão de monitoramento.
  • As transações autorizadas não constituem tecnicamente fraude, e identificar e comunicar o padrão ajuda as autoridades policiais a ligar os vários elementos.
Conclusão final

A melhor forma de aproximar a regulamentação da BSA e o combate à fraude é explicar o porquê. Uma regra que parece um obstáculo transforma-se num plano quando se compreende a razão por trás dela, e uma zona cinzenta torna-se mais fácil de gerir quando a política define quem é responsável por ela. A Nyla e eu aprendemos isso ao trabalhar lado a lado, e acredito que qualquer equipa de combate à fraude e de conformidade também o pode aprender. Comecem por um encaminhamento, um cenário partilhado ou uma conversa sobre os prazos. Os membros que protegem vão sentir a diferença.

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Episode transcript
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Hailey Windham
00:06
Nyla, I am so glad that you are here with me.
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Hailey Windham
00:09
We are live at Money 2020 in person.
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Hailey Windham
00:11
Like, look, you're really here. And and wait a minute.
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Hailey Windham
00:15
Both of these say Sardine.
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Nyla Cortes
00:19
Look at that.
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Hailey Windham
00:20
Look at that.
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Nyla Cortes
00:21
Look at that.
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Hailey Windham
00:22
Reunited. And it feels so good.
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Hailey Windham
00:23
We're getting the band back together. Oh, so glad you're here.
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Hailey Windham
00:27
Um, yeah.
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Hailey Windham
00:28
I I always uh love having you on normally, but this
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Hailey Windham
00:32
this moment just feels a little extra special.
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Nyla Cortes
00:35
It really does. I'm so excited to be here, Hailey.
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Hailey Windham
00:41
It kind of brings back some old memories.
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Nyla Cortes
00:44
Oh,
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Hailey Windham
00:45
You and I. Uh for those of you that do not know, and only the OG
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Nyla Cortes
00:50
OG OG
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Hailey Windham
00:51
OG OG uh fans of the show, um and not this show will know.
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Hailey Windham
00:54
Um Nyla and I um when we formerly worked together
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Hailey Windham
00:58
at a credit union, we had our own podcast.
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Nyla Cortes
01:04
We sure did.
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Hailey Windham
01:04
And it was called Hailey Windham and Nyla Cortes (1:06): The TEA
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Hailey Windham
01:08
Um and it stood for training, education, and awareness.
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Nyla Cortes
01:11
Yup
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Hailey Windham
01:12
We did it also because for two reasons.
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Hailey Windham
01:14
One, we were the fastest friends ever in the work environment.
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Hailey Windham
01:18
Like you guys, this one I started working in uh November and
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Hailey Windham
01:22
then they did secret Santa and she was my secret Santa.
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Nyla Cortes
01:27
I was
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Hailey Windham
01:28
It was the sweetest thing.
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Nyla Cortes
01:29
Actually, she was my secret Santa.
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Hailey Windham
01:31
Oh yeah. Yeah.
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Nyla Cortes
01:31
Yeah.
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Hailey Windham
01:32
Either way.
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Hailey Windham
01:32
Um and I would come in daily and there'd be these little
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Hailey Windham
01:35
things on my desk and I was like, "Oh my god, somebody
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Hailey Windham
01:38
loves me and they don't even know me. "
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Nyla Cortes
01:40
I loved her. We literally were desk mates.
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Hailey Windham
01:43
Yeah.
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Hailey Windham
01:43
Like literally I if we heard a conversation that we wanted to roll
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Hailey Windham
01:47
our roll our eyes about we'd lean back and look at each other and
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Hailey Windham
01:51
you know you you know you have those um those are the best.
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Hailey Windham
01:54
So okay we had the TEA and we have a commercial that
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Hailey Windham
01:57
I'm hoping we're going to be able to input here.
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Nyla Cortes
02:00
Oh yes.
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Nyla Cortes
02:03
Welcome to THE TEA where we steep down the compliance jargon into real
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Hailey Windham
02:06
Nyla. Nyla
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Nyla Cortes
02:08
What? What?
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Hailey Windham
02:09
You forgot about fraud.
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Hailey Windham
02:10
We have to spill the tea on all things fraud.
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Nyla Cortes
02:13
Oh my gosh, you are right. Okay, we do talk about fraud, too.
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Nyla Cortes
02:16
I'm so sorry. Okay, let me start again.
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Nyla Cortes
02:19
Welcome to THE TEA, where we steep down compliance
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Nyla Cortes
02:22
and fraud jargon into real world understanding. My name is Nyla
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Hailey Windham
02:26
And my name is Hailey.
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Hailey Windham
02:27
We are your hosts of this employee exclusive podcast. ]
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Hailey Windham
02:34
Okay, so you guys just heard it.
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Hailey Windham
02:35
So, that was where we spilled the or we What is that?
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Hailey Windham
02:38
We turned we spilled the tea for sure, but then we turned
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Hailey Windham
02:41
compliance and fraud jargon Hailey Windham and Nyla
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Hailey Windham
02:44
Cortes (2:49): Into real world understanding.
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Hailey Windham
02:47
Um, which is what we are doing now obviously.
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Hailey Windham
02:49
Um, and again, just so excited to have you back on.
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Hailey Windham
02:52
We'll be doing some things together obviously.
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Hailey Windham
02:55
Um, and then there will be a few things
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Hailey Windham
02:58
that you'll be doing on your own. So, I would love to know.
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Hailey Windham
03:01
Um, let's see. Uh, we did have a couple of fun things.
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Hailey Windham
03:05
Um, so if THE TEA had a theme song, what would it have been?
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Hailey Windham
03:08
And what do you think about that?
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Nyla Cortes
03:11
At the time, I really think that our theme song would
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Nyla Cortes
03:13
have been the Scooby-Doo intro theme song.
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Hailey Windham
03:15
Oh, I love that.
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Nyla Cortes
03:17
We mo more Hailey than I, but we were
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Nyla Cortes
03:19
very in depth into the Scooby-Doo.
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Nyla Cortes
03:21
I mean, if any of you obviously watching her podcasts or any of her
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Nyla Cortes
03:25
um Friday 5 minutes of fraud, you see Scooby in the background.
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Nyla Cortes
03:29
You know, it used to be an even bigger thing that it is now.
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Nyla Cortes
03:33
Um, this girl used to give out Scooby snacks to people
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Nyla Cortes
03:37
that were able to um detect or even prevent fraud from
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Nyla Cortes
03:40
happening in the branches at our credit union. It was just so amazing.
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Hailey Windham
03:45
He's a cultural icon.
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Hailey Windham
03:46
Um, and he taught me uh, you know, monsters are just
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Hailey Windham
03:49
people hiding behind mask and what's the difference
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Hailey Windham
03:52
with a fraudster hiding behind a computer screen.
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Nyla Cortes
03:55
So true.
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Hailey Windham
03:56
You know, um, so I'm I'm out to prove a point
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Hailey Windham
03:58
and Scooby's going to help that out.
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Hailey Windham
04:00
I mean, it it's amazing what a little bit of appreciation will
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Hailey Windham
04:04
do for your team and and you know, that's one of those things,
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Hailey Windham
04:07
too, where you kind of go where where you're needed.
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Hailey Windham
04:10
Um, and when unfortunately, and we're no longer at that
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Hailey Windham
04:13
credit union, but we know we've left it in good hands with
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Hailey Windham
04:16
with some of the things that we've put in place.
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Hailey Windham
04:19
Um, and then, um, I was going to say, uh, also for a theme
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Hailey Windham
04:22
song, do you remember Robin Big from MTV when they did
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Hailey Windham
04:25
their people, let me tell you about my best friend?
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Hailey Windham
04:28
That's what I thought it was going to be.
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Hailey Windham
04:30
But, um, but Scooby-Doo works, too. That's a good one.
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Nyla Cortes
04:34
Um, that could be yours. That could be yours.
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Hailey Windham
04:37
Okay.
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Hailey Windham
04:38
Um, and then who, um, let's see, who was
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Hailey Windham
04:40
our most loyal listener um, back then?
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Nyla Cortes
04:44
Oh my goodness. Okay. I definitely think it was Dylan.
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Nyla Cortes
04:47
Ugh, I love Dylan.
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Hailey Windham
04:51
Dylan, we miss you so much.
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Nyla Cortes
04:52
We miss you, Dylan.
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Nyla Cortes
04:53
Dylan was our biggest supporter, our biggest advocate.
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Nyla Cortes
04:56
Just from day one, she was so excited for us when we launched
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Nyla Cortes
05:00
THE TEA at our credit union and she listened every
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Nyla Cortes
05:04
single week and she just gave the best feedback.
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Nyla Cortes
05:07
She was so supportive of us. I We miss you so much, Dylan.
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Hailey Windham
05:13
We so miss you.
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Nyla Cortes
05:15
We hope you're, I hope you're doing good, Dylan.
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Hailey Windham
05:17
Yes. Yes. And uh which fun fact, Dylan went on to be a trainer.
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Nyla Cortes
05:21
Yes, she did.
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Hailey Windham
05:22
She went from fraud to being a trainer.
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Hailey Windham
05:24
Um and I loved watching her grow. That is just
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Nyla Cortes
05:28
She's an amazing trainer.
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Hailey Windham
05:30
One of those one of those full circle moments.
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Hailey Windham
05:31
And we're so proud of you.
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Nyla Cortes
05:32
We're so proud of you, Dylan.
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Hailey Windham
05:33
And now we're back here and we get to talk about you because
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Hailey Windham
05:36
people know you and now they'll want to know you.
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Nyla Cortes
05:39
Okay. All right. Now, I have a question for you, Hailey.
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Hailey Windham
05:41
Okay.
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Nyla Cortes
05:43
I have really always wondered this. Okay.
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Nyla Cortes
05:45
What is one moment in your career where someone made
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Nyla Cortes
05:49
the rules feel just extremely clear for you?
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Hailey Windham
05:54
I could count the ways that they weren't they weren't extremely
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Nyla Cortes
05:56
I think we all can count those ways. I was like multiple hands.
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Hailey Windham
06:01
Multiple hands.
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Hailey Windham
06:02
Um I can remember a time when you me and Dylan argued about reg e.
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Nyla Cortes
06:07
I mean countless times. Speaking of Dylan.
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Hailey Windham
06:10
Yeah, speaking of.
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Hailey Windham
06:11
Um so there were a couple of times in my career that um you know
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Hailey Windham
06:15
the rules still kind of felt like this gray box of like we know we
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Hailey Windham
06:19
know these are the rules but we don't know why they're the rules.
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Hailey Windham
06:24
Um and for me being someone that's kind of really hands-on a visual
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Hailey Windham
06:28
learner but also someone that I I have to have that practical
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Hailey Windham
06:32
understanding of something that's really hard for me.
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Nyla Cortes
06:37
Yeah.
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Hailey Windham
06:38
Um, and it's one that caused me a lot of uh grief in
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Hailey Windham
06:40
my career because I would spend the time arguing my
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Hailey Windham
06:43
point of like, "No, this is how I interpret it.
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Hailey Windham
06:46
" Because in plain English to me, this is what it says.
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Hailey Windham
06:49
But then to have someone who wouldn't like explain
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Hailey Windham
06:52
it and just say, "No, this is wrong.
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Hailey Windham
06:54
This is what you're supposed to do.
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Hailey Windham
06:56
" Versus having someone that would take the time.
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Hailey Windham
06:59
So, I don't want this to be a cliche episode, but there was
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Hailey Windham
07:02
this person that I worked with who was a desk mate.
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Hailey Windham
07:05
Um who I'm sitting with right now.
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Hailey Windham
07:07
That I just remember, you know, we were I think
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Hailey Windham
07:10
it was a one of the elder fraud cases we were working
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Hailey Windham
07:13
uh through our case management system.
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Hailey Windham
07:15
And I just remember like as a fraud person, I was
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Hailey Windham
07:18
like I we have to do something about this.
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Hailey Windham
07:20
But unfortunately, the way that our process was the elder
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Hailey Windham
07:24
financial exploitation went directly through BSA.
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Nyla Cortes
07:27
That's right.
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Hailey Windham
07:28
And so it would come through you guys.
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Hailey Windham
07:30
And then from there you would, you know, do
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Hailey Windham
07:32
adult protective services or whatever.
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Hailey Windham
07:34
But then on my side, I had a hard time understanding
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Hailey Windham
07:37
why I couldn't be more involved.
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Hailey Windham
07:39
And then when you and I were able to like collaborate on
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Hailey Windham
07:42
like what could be why I couldn't do something in the beginning
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Hailey Windham
07:46
versus being able to say, Hey, you know what?
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Hailey Windham
07:48
Now that we're aware of this, BSA is going to actually
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Hailey Windham
07:52
inform fraud, to say, Hey, this is a we know
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Hailey Windham
07:54
that this is elder financial exploitation.
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Hailey Windham
07:56
We know that this person is a vulnerable adult.
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Hailey Windham
07:59
We have contacted adult check services and all the things.
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Hailey Windham
08:02
However, the account is still open, still being used.
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Nyla Cortes
08:06
Yep.
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Hailey Windham
08:07
We on BSA side can't touch it.
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Nyla Cortes
08:09
Yeah.
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Hailey Windham
08:10
But fraud, here's your unusual activity referral.
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Hailey Windham
08:12
Now, you can do something about it.
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Hailey Windham
08:14
And so having it where I knew I couldn't step in immediately.
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Hailey Windham
08:18
I had to wait on that and getting that explanation from you
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Hailey Windham
08:21
of like, hey, no, because the policy states this, it has to
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Hailey Windham
08:24
come through me first, but I will refer it over to you.
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Hailey Windham
08:27
Let me know that like, hey, there it's not just going to fall
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Hailey Windham
08:31
into this box of uh, you know, maybe a SAR gets filed, maybe
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Hailey Windham
08:34
it doesn't, maybe they get called, maybe they don't.
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Hailey Windham
08:37
I will have the opportunity to intervene.
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Hailey Windham
08:39
And so that was that was one of those moments for me that it it
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Hailey Windham
08:43
took being able to understand why the rule was the way that it was.
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Hailey Windham
08:47
Um that that made it a way for me to move kind of forward. I guess
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Nyla Cortes
08:51
That's really nice.
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Nyla Cortes
08:51
Honestly, to everyone listening, I did not expect her to say me. Um,
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Hailey Windham
08:55
What would you expect I mean,
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Nyla Cortes
08:58
No, truly like I I was honestly just using it as a segue
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Nyla Cortes
09:01
because I that is literally what I am all about and I'm
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Nyla Cortes
09:05
so happy that I was able to provide that for you.
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Nyla Cortes
09:08
Because not only the connection between fraud and BSA teams being
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Nyla Cortes
09:13
still extremely just there the two separate entities are so siloed
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Nyla Cortes
09:17
um and there's really no conversation happening between the two.
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Nyla Cortes
09:21
So in cases of um elder financial exploitation or identity
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Nyla Cortes
09:25
theft where a lot of the cases really do cross over between
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Nyla Cortes
09:29
BSA and fraud and there is no conversation happening.
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Nyla Cortes
09:33
It makes it extremely hard not just on the BSA
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Nyla Cortes
09:36
side but on the fraud side too on both teams.
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Nyla Cortes
09:39
Everyone's doing double work. Nobody wants to do double work.
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Nyla Cortes
09:43
So I am just so glad that I was able to do that for you.
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Nyla Cortes
09:46
But also what made that whole that whole process so easy was that
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Nyla Cortes
09:51
you were so open to collaborating and bridging the gap the tea.
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Hailey Windham
09:56
That was our slogan
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Nyla Cortes
09:57
Yeah, that was the slogan. Bridging the gap. Yep.
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Nyla Cortes
09:59
Bridging the gap between BSA and fraud. And it's I'm just so happy.
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Nyla Cortes
10:03
I'm just so happy that that was a good moment for you.
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Hailey Windham
10:07
Absolutely.
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Hailey Windham
10:07
And I think that was one thing you and I have talked about it
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Hailey Windham
10:11
before on a previous podcast where it was, you know, do you think
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Hailey Windham
10:14
that we were kind of at an advantage that other teams don't
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Hailey Windham
10:18
get because we liked the person behind the process first.
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Hailey Windham
10:21
Um whereas if you do have uh you know where maybe you don't have
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Hailey Windham
10:24
the same personality as your BSA officer or or your compliance team
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Hailey Windham
10:28
or your internal audit and you feel like they are kind of
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Hailey Windham
10:31
untouchable, unfriendly, like they live in their little department.
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Hailey Windham
10:35
I I always thought maybe we were at just in a little bit of an
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Hailey Windham
10:39
advantage because it was like, well, I I like this person.
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Hailey Windham
10:42
I want to number one be our friend. I want to be helpful.
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Hailey Windham
10:45
Do we have that across every department with everybody?
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Hailey Windham
10:48
And sometimes we don't.
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Nyla Cortes
10:50
Sometimes we really don't. But you know what?
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Nyla Cortes
10:52
Just because friendship isn't on the table
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Nyla Cortes
10:55
doesn't mean collaboration can't be.
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Nyla Cortes
10:57
And I think if you just learn to speak the other person's
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Nyla Cortes
11:00
language, you can always build that build that bridge.
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Hailey Windham
11:04
So true. Okay. So, let's play a game.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
11:06
Um, so we're going to do fraud or compliance. You answer.
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Hailey Windham
11:09
I'm going to give you some scenarios.
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Nyla Cortes
11:12
Okay.
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Hailey Windham
11:13
So, one device logs into a dozen accounts in an hour.
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Hailey Windham
11:16
Fraud spots it, compliance work wants to know
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Hailey Windham
11:19
if it ties to a pattern worth reviewing.
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Nyla Cortes
11:23
That's so hard.
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Nyla Cortes
11:23
And I think it really just plays into because I you have a you
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Nyla Cortes
11:27
have a case for either side, fraud or compliance on this.
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Nyla Cortes
11:30
I honestly think both. Like but seriously.
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Nyla Cortes
11:33
And I know people are like, Oh yeah, you
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Nyla Cortes
11:35
guys were just talking about that. Roll my eyes.
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
11:38
But like seriously, both need to be involved in this
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
11:41
because as you stated in your question, compliance
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
11:44
wants to know if it ties to a pattern, right?
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
11:46
And fraud, they're the one that spots it and they're also
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
11:49
the ones that track the actual pattern itself and they're
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
11:53
also the ones that need to know because if it's a bigger
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
11:56
thing than it actually just this one instance,
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Hailey Windham
11:59
Right?
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
11:59
Yeah, that's I think it's important to make sure that
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
12:02
there is that understanding between the two of like,
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
12:04
hey, here's something that I've spotted.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
12:06
Here's a way that I'm kind of intervening, but at
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
12:08
the same time, you as compliance need to know about
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
12:11
it to understand the risk of the product.
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Nyla Cortes
12:13
Yep.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
12:14
Um, and also to understand, hey, right now, our
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
12:16
current processes don't allow for interjection
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
12:19
or they don't allow us to stop something.
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Hailey Windham
12:21
Can we work together to to fix that?
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
12:23
Can we bring in the payment team to let them look
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
12:26
to see about their current process as well?
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
12:28
Like when they spot something or maybe it's even tying it back
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
12:32
to the vendor relationship of, hey, this is this is abnormal.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
12:35
Is this something you can catch?
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
12:37
And if not, maybe we look to see if there's another alternative.
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
12:41
Yeah. Yep. I agree.
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Hailey Windham
12:43
Okay.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
12:43
How about um a customer says they never authorized a transfer.
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
12:47
Okay.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
12:47
Fraud investigates.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
12:48
Compliance cares about the clock and the customer's rights.
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
12:52
Yes. So we see this it reg e claims, right?
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Nyla Cortes
12:54
This is basic reg e claims.
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Nyla Cortes
12:56
Your compliance is your clock, your timing, are you getting your
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
13:00
notices out, are you doing exactly what you need to, are you
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
13:04
giving provisional credit in the right amount of time.
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
13:07
Fraud is concerned about the investigation.
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
13:10
They're concerned about patterns.
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
13:12
They're concerned about if the merchant is doing this
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
13:16
to multiple other customers at the same time.
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
13:19
So another great example of why it's so important certain
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
13:22
that compliance and fraud are are in conversation.
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Hailey Windham
13:26
So true. I love that.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
13:27
What I also love about that particular scenario is that it's not
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
13:30
it's almost like that dual control, but um where it's compliance
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
13:34
isn't coming in to say, "Hey, you didn't do your job right.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
13:37
" Compliance is coming in to say, "Hey, our members, our
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
13:41
customers, first of all, legally, we need to make sure
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
13:44
that we are complying with the right timelines.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
13:47
" But second of all, this is a this is a customer win.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
13:50
This is a member win of if we get them their their either
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
13:53
provisional credit or whatever on time while we conduct our 10-day
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
13:57
investigation before it turns into a okay, you've got your
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
14:00
provisional credit, but now we need additional 30 days.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
14:03
You know, 45 days, you'll get your answer.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
14:06
Um I I like that it's more on making sure that the consumer is
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
14:09
taken care of um while protecting the financial institution.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
14:13
And then sometimes what also comes from that is process efficiency.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
14:17
Like you look at it at a thing and you're like, Okay,
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
14:20
you guys have, you know, 50 cases coming in a day.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
14:23
You're a staff of three. You're not meeting the deadlines in time.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
14:26
This is another way that compliance can help advocate for either
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
14:30
additional resources, new tech, anything like that.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
14:33
So, I think that's an opportunity where sometimes we forget that.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
14:37
Because it kind of feels like you're the older sister and
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
14:40
you're tattling on me, mom, and I'm really sick of it.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
14:43
Like, come on.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
14:44
But instead, you're like, No, I I want to help,
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
14:47
but we have to first accept that that there are
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
14:49
some some things that we do have a few gaps.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
14:52
There are a few vulnerabilities. Let's address those together.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
14:56
And and it becomes a real cultural win,
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
14:58
I think, for the organization.
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Nyla Cortes
15:00
I I love the way that you said everything because at the end
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
15:03
of the day, Reg e is a consumer protection law, right?
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Nyla Cortes
15:07
Like reg e, as much as we all hate it in this space, we hate it.
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
15:11
We hate all the rules, all of the nitty-grittiness, all
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
15:15
the little details that come with reg e and how much
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
15:18
we truly just it can grate on investigators nerves.
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
15:21
It is at the end of the day a consumer protection law put
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
15:25
into place so that banks are not wronging the consumer.
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Hailey Windham
15:29
Yeah. Yeah.
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
15:30
You know,
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Hailey Windham
15:31
Love that.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
15:32
And and I think that it shows just the the overall
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
15:35
uh responsibility of the organization too.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
15:38
Um and and for clarity on this uh episode when we
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
15:41
say compliance what department are we saying? What is compliance?
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Hailey Windham
15:45
What is represented in that compliance?
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
15:49
Yeah, compliance bubble can be BSA compliance. It can be risk.
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Nyla Cortes
15:53
It could be sometimes fraud in some cases.
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
15:55
Um just depends on your organization itself and how it's structured.
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
16:00
Um, but yeah, big at the end of the day, regulatory compliance,
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
16:04
consumer protection compliance, lending compliance, risk management,
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
16:09
all of those kind of fall under our compliance bubble.
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Hailey Windham
16:13
Love that. Okay. Uh, last last little scenario for you.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
16:16
So, money comes in and goes straight
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
16:18
back out with no clear purpose.
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
16:20
Okay.
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Hailey Windham
16:20
Compliance sees monitoring,
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Nyla Cortes
16:23
Right
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
16:23
Uh, fraud teams see mule risk.
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
16:26
Yes.
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Hailey Windham
16:27
Um, I know you and I specifically have this
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
16:29
exact scenario come up in our path.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
16:32
Um, so I'd love I'd love to hear your thoughts here.
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
16:36
Yes. So, this is one where the hair will always be split.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
16:44
Yeah.
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
16:45
I don't think that either team is going to really agree.
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
16:47
And I think what's really going to drive this decision
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
16:50
for any organization is going to be your policy.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
16:53
Yeah.
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Nyla Cortes
16:54
Um, it's one of those scenarios where it has to be defined very
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
16:58
clearly in your policy what it is, whether that's your BSA policy
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
17:02
or whether that's your fraud policy, who owns it, right?
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
17:05
And I hate that, you know I I want to say again
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
17:09
that both kind of hold the umbrella or hold the
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
17:12
torch for this because it's a different risk.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
17:15
Yeah.
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
17:16
Until you have more evidence leaning more one way than the other.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
17:21
Yeah.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
17:22
Uh, from the fraud side, I can remember arguing, "But I know
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
17:26
that they're doing something nefarious with this money. "
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
17:30
We all know,
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Hailey Windham
17:31
Like, why is he coming in with $30,000 of cash in his pocket?
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
17:36
Yeah.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
17:36
It's not in a zipper bag. It's literally bills in his pocket.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
17:40
It's not making sense.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
17:41
Um, and I'm like I can remember literally
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
17:44
going, "I think we should call the law.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
17:46
" And you're like, "No, we shouldn't.
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
17:50
No, we should not.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
17:51
You're like, This is not going to help anybody if we do that
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
17:54
right now because we have to understand the pattern.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
17:57
We've got to make sure that like, hey,
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
17:59
maybe this is a one-off thing.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
18:01
But if it in the event that it's not a one-off
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
18:04
thing, this could lead to something bigger.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
18:06
And that was one of the biggest lessons that you taught me because
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
18:10
I remember, you know, when I finally got the authority within my
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
18:14
role to uh prevent and and intervene, I was like, Shut it off.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
18:17
Convenient service. They don't need that. They don't need that.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
18:21
And so for these particular types of scenarios where money
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
18:24
is coming in, we have no real explanation, we know in like
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
18:27
our heart of hearts something nefarious is going on.
Smiling woman with long blonde hair wearing a black suit, sitting in a chair.
Nyla Cortes
18:31
Yes.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
18:31
But we can't prove that the number one the money is not theirs.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
18:34
Number two, like if we define what fraud is, right?
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
18:37
A fraud being taken without authorization.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
18:40
But you've got an actual customer member that's
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
18:43
walking in with a handful of cash. They leave.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
18:46
They are transacting through their online banking,
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
18:49
through their debit card, whatever.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
18:51
We can see that it is actual authorized transaction.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
18:54
There is no technical fraud.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
18:55
Maybe something nefarious is happening, but we have
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
18:59
to first identify a pattern, report it, and what you
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
19:02
guys are filing your CTRs and things like that.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
19:04
But for me, that was one of those light bulb moments of,
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
19:08
hey, you know, Hailey, you're a bigger picture person.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
19:11
Like, you like to think holistically.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
19:13
You're not thinking holistically right now.
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
19:16
You're thinking of the individual account at this individual
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19:20
financial institution and not the overall you know broad
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Hailey Windham
19:23
ecosystem of what else is happening after this.
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Hailey Windham
19:26
So if we can help law enforcement or the regulators whoever I
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identify what's going on and they can connect pieces on their
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19:33
side then we're doing our part that actually is helping.
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Nyla Cortes
19:37
Yes. Yes. I agree.
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Fraud fighters if you're anything like me, your
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list of things to read keeps growing.
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Your time to read them though, probably not so much.
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That's why I write the Monday Fraud Fix.
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It's the newsletter companion to Fraud Forward.
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So, every Monday I'm sharing fraud trends that made me pause,
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what I'm reading, conversations happening in our community,
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and the fraud fighters that I think you should know.
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I also bring my take, you know, what it means for the people
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doing this work, and the questions we need to be asking.
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Every now and again, I might leave you a
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little Scooby snack to start your week.
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You know, I just can't help myself.
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You can find the Monday Fraud Fix on Substack or tap
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the link in the episode show notes and subscribe.
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I'll see you in your inbox, fraud fighters.
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Hailey Windham
20:20
Okay, so Nyla, obviously we're going to wrap this up because
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20:23
we are live at Money 2020, but I have it on good authority
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Hailey Windham
20:27
that there is a an announcement coming.
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20:29
So, and we're going to use a Fraud Forward, Thank you, by the way.
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Hailey Windham
20:33
Um, as your announcement uh platform
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Nyla Cortes
20:36
Yes the exclusive so
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Hailey Windham
20:38
I'm getting the exclusive. I told you I needed that press badge.
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Nyla Cortes
20:42
Here's your exclusive Money 2020 on the Fraud Forward podcast
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Nyla Cortes
20:46
because let's be honest, Hailey is my best friend.
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Nyla Cortes
20:49
So, there was no one else that I could honestly announce this with.
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Hailey Windham
20:54
I feel like I need to do one more little take here and go.
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Hailey Windham
20:57
Okay, this is your exclusive big news happening
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Hailey Windham
20:59
here live on Fraud Forward in Money 2020. All right, Nyla, go.
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Hailey Windham
21:02
What is your big news?
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Nyla Cortes
21:04
Oh my gosh. Okay, my news.
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Nyla Cortes
21:05
I am just so excited and so nervous because this has been
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Nyla Cortes
21:09
something that I've been working towards for years. For years.
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Nyla Cortes
21:13
And I am just so excited to announce that I am
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Nyla Cortes
21:16
launching a podcast just like Fraud Forward.
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Nyla Cortes
21:19
Um, but for me, it's going to be called Regulated with Nyla Cortes.
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Nyla Cortes
21:24
We're going to be covering everything BSA regulations,
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Nyla Cortes
21:27
consumer protection regulations. I am just at risk.
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Nyla Cortes
21:31
Oh, all everything that I just my bread and butter.
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Nyla Cortes
21:34
If you know me, you know.
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Nyla Cortes
21:36
Um I just I love making something that can be so complicated
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21:40
and feels so out of reach for so many people, feel
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Nyla Cortes
21:43
just so broken down and so easy to understand.
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Nyla Cortes
21:46
And I I I just I'm so excited.
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Hailey Windham
21:53
Yeah, you have a really great way of doing that.
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Hailey Windham
21:55
I'm very excited for this.
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Hailey Windham
21:57
You're uh one of the first people that I talked
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Hailey Windham
22:00
to Sardine about when they were like, "Hailey,
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22:02
do you uh do anything on compliance in BSA?
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Hailey Windham
22:05
" And I was like, "I can talk fraud compliance.
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Hailey Windham
22:08
" Um but as far as like reading those very long boring
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Hailey Windham
22:11
documents, that's not that's not a Hailey thing.
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Hailey Windham
22:14
Um but I know I know someone. Um and so I love that.
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Hailey Windham
22:17
But also like just as a as a normal practitioner,
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Hailey Windham
22:20
you were that for me.
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Hailey Windham
22:21
I had a very hard time digesting regulations and understanding what
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Hailey Windham
22:25
our role was, what my particular role was in in any instance.
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Hailey Windham
22:29
And so whenever I would have to revert
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Hailey Windham
22:31
back to, well, what does the reg say? What is this?
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Hailey Windham
22:34
I'd go, hey, Nyla, what does that reg say?
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Hailey Windham
22:36
Like I'll read it on this paper, but let me tell
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Hailey Windham
22:39
you, it's like translating Greek to me.
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22:41
I feel like, you know, Percy Jackson whenever
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Hailey Windham
22:44
he's like looking at the the Greek side.
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Nyla Cortes
22:47
That's how so many people feel. That is how so many people feel.
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22:50
And that's why I'm that's why Regulated is coming to fruition.
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22:54
Because I will be not humble in saying that I have a gift in really
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22:58
translating all of those regulations down into plain English.
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And I am just I'm so excited to help the
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23:03
next generation of compliance people.
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Hailey Windham
23:06
Yeah. So who who was or who is Regulated uh for?
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Hailey Windham
23:09
Who's that audience?
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Nyla Cortes
23:12
It's for your compliance analysts. It's for your compliance officers.
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Nyla Cortes
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It's for your BSA people.
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Nyla Cortes
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It's for the new people walking into this space.
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Nyla Cortes
23:21
You know, I I walked into the compliance world 11 years
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23:24
ago and I you you would think I was like one of those
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23:28
cartoons with my eyes bugging out of my head.
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Nyla Cortes
23:31
Because it is that intimidating. It is that scary.
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Nyla Cortes
23:34
And then to hold the title of compliance officer and just
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23:38
truly be the person that your organization is relying on
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to know and to understand and to break these down and explain
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23:45
it in plain English to the rest of the company.
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Nyla Cortes
23:48
That is so intimidating and so incredibly hard.
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23:51
And part of the reason why so many compliance officers have
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such a hard time integrating and staying in compliance.
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23:59
Because it just is that hard.
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Hailey Windham
24:01
It is. It is.
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24:01
So being able to have someone that could turn those
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24:05
uh compliance jargon Hailey Windham and Nyla Cortes
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24:08
(24:08): Into real world understanding
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Hailey Windham
24:11
Um I think it's great.
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Hailey Windham
24:12
Um so uh I just want to ask about like format.
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Hailey Windham
24:14
What is um you know how how is it different from the
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Hailey Windham
24:17
compliance content that's already out there?
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Nyla Cortes
24:20
Yeah. So um this is going to be on a more reachable platform.
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Nyla Cortes
24:23
Uh we're doing not only the Regulated podcast,
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Nyla Cortes
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but I will also be doing blogs and articles.
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Um breaking down not just um what's coming and
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what are the regulators talking about. But also past regulations.
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Nyla Cortes
24:35
Like we were just talking about reg e earlier and how
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24:38
nitty-gritty that one is and how hard and difficult
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24:41
and tedious that one is to really understand.
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Nyla Cortes
24:44
So taking the time to go back to the beginning and break those down.
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Nyla Cortes
24:48
We're also doing webinars.
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Nyla Cortes
24:50
I'll be at conferences just like this at Money2020.
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Nyla Cortes
24:53
Um, and I am just so excited.
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Hailey Windham
24:55
Uh, we're so excited to have you.
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Hailey Windham
24:56
This is a a piece of um our Sardine Media that
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24:59
that we've been hoping to expand on.
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Hailey Windham
25:01
Um, and you're the the perfect person for it.
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Hailey Windham
25:03
So, thank you for joining me on Fraud Forward.
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Nyla Cortes
25:06
Thank you so much for having me
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Hailey Windham
25:07
Thank you so much for bringing us this exclusive piece of news.
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Hailey Windham
25:10
Um, and for letting uh my platform be the one to announce it.
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Hailey Windham
25:13
Uh, looking forward to the rest of the conference with you.
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Hailey Windham
25:17
Um, if you are uh a follower of Fraud Forward,
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Hailey Windham
25:19
be sure to check out Regulated with Nyla.
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Hailey Windham
25:21
Uh, we will link her um content, her LinkedIn
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25:24
and everything in the show notes.
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Hailey Windham
25:26
And yeah, really looking forward to continuing
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25:28
having conversations this week. And thank you again so much.
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Nyla Cortes
25:32
Thank you so much, Hailey.
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Hailey Windham
25:39
Thanks for listening to Fraud Forward.
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Hailey Windham
25:41
Remember, every conversation, every connection, and every insight
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25:45
moves our industry one step closer to stronger fraud defenses.
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Hailey Windham
25:49
If today's episode sparked an idea, share
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25:52
it with your team or tag me on LinkedIn.
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Hailey Windham
25:55
I love hearing how you're moving Fraud
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25:57
Forward in your own organization.
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Until next time, stay curious, stay resilient,
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keep moving Fraud Forward.