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BSA規制と不正対策:その隔たりを埋める — ナイラ・コルテスを迎えて

26 min

不正と戦う皆さん、こんにちは!Fraud Forwardへようこそ!

今回は特別な回です。Money 2020の会場からお届けしています。向かいに座っているのは、信用組合で働いていた頃にデスクを並べていたナイラ・コルテスです。当時、私たちは「THE TEA」というポッドキャストを一緒に配信していました。TEAは、トレーニング(Training)、教育(Education)、意識向上(Awareness)の頭文字を取ったものです。コンプライアンスや不正対策の専門用語を、実際の現場で役立つわかりやすい知識に変えて伝えることが、私たちの目標でした。今日もまさに、その取り組みを再びお届けします。

ナイラは銀行秘密法(BSA)と消費者保護規制を知り尽くしています。私の専門は不正対策です。今回の対談では、この2つの分野が縦割りのままだと何が起きるのか、そして連携を始めると何が変わるのかを語り合います。方針が設けられている理由を私に教えてくれた高齢者への経済的搾取の事例を取り上げ、「不正対策か、コンプライアンスか」を当てるゲームを交えながら、レギュレーションEに基づく異議申し立て、現金取引、そしてグレーゾーンの問題を誰が担当すべきかについても掘り下げます。BSA規制と不正対策がどう関わっているのか疑問に思ったことがある方に、ぜひ聞いていただきたい回です。

最後までお付き合いください。ナイラが、ここで真っ先に伝えたいニュースがあるそうです。それでは、始めましょう。

このエピソードでお届けする内容:

  • 銀行秘密法(BSA)対応チームと不正対策チームが連携して、高齢者の経済的虐待事案にどう対処したのか。成人保護サービスへの通報や、不正対策チームが対応に動くきっかけとなった通常とは異なる取引活動の情報共有についても取り上げます。
  • BSAチームと不正対策チームが縦割りで業務を行うとなぜ作業が重複するのか、そしてBSA担当者と不正対策チームのコミュニケーションを改善することで、それをどう解消できるのか。
  • BSA部門と不正対策部門の溝を埋めるとは、実務上どのようなことを意味するのか、そしてなぜ友人関係になる必要はないのか。
  • レギュレーションEに基づく異議申し立て、暫定的な口座入金の期限、10日間および45日間の調査期間が、会員と金融機関をどのように保護するのか。
  • 不正送金の申し立てに、法令で定められた対応期限の管理と不正調査の両方が必要な理由。
  • 1台のデバイスから1時間に12ものアカウントへのログインがあった場合の対処法。
  • 明確な目的もなく入金されてはすぐに出金される資金は誰のものなのか、そして、なぜその判断をポリシーで定める必要があるのか。
  • 会員が現金3万ドルを持って来店した際に何が起きたのか、そして通貨取引報告書(CTR)の提出が全体の取り組みの中でどのような役割を果たすのか。
  • 規制をわかりやすい言葉で説明することが、不正対策チームとコンプライアンスチームの連携に役立つ理由。

次のような方におすすめのエピソードです:

  • 不正対策業務に携わっており、銀行秘密法(BSA)の制約によって、必ずしもすぐに対応できない理由を理解したい方
  • BSAやコンプライアンス業務に従事しており、不正対策チームとのコミュニケーションを改善したい方
  • BSAに初めて携わるコンプライアンス担当者やアナリストで、規制についてわかりやすい説明を求めている方
  • 信用組合や地域銀行に勤務し、レギュレーションE(電子資金振替規則)に基づく異議申立てに対応している
  • 目的が不明確な資金の入出金など、対応責任が曖昧な案件の担当を決めようとしている
エピソードノート

この規則が存在する理由を私に教えてくれた高齢者搾取事件

Nylaに、これまでの仕事で、誰かのおかげでルールの意味がはっきり理解できた場面を挙げてほしいと言われました。私は、それはあなたのおかげだったと答えました。私たちは高齢者の金銭的搾取の案件に取り組んでいましたが、私たちの信用組合では、この種の案件はまず銀行秘密法(BSA)の担当部門を通すことになっていました。私は不正対策の担当なので、すぐに対応に入りたいと思っていました。なぜ待たなければならないのか、理解できなかったのです。Nylaはその方針を説明し、BSA担当部門が成人保護サービスに連絡したら、通常とは異なる取引活動の案件として私に引き継ぐと約束してくれました。これは重要なことでした。口座はまだ開設されたままで、利用も続いていましたが、BSA担当部門にはその口座に対処する権限がなかったからです。不正対策部門なら対応できました。また、正式に引き継がれることで、疑わしい取引の届出(SAR)が提出されるかどうかも分からないまま、案件が埋もれてしまうのを防ぐこともできました。そのルールが存在する理由を理解してからは、異議を唱えるのをやめ、ルールを活用するようになりました。

BSA部門と不正対策部門の橋渡し

ナイラによると、BSA(銀行秘密法)対応チームと不正対策チームは今も別々の組織で、対話の機会がほとんどありません。しかし、高齢者の金銭的搾取や個人情報の盗用といった事案では、業務が重なります。対話がなければ、誰もが同じ作業を二重に行うことになり、それは誰も望んでいません。当時、私たちが掲げていたスローガンは「BSA対応と不正対策の橋渡し」でした。私たちには、業務のやり方よりも先に、相手の人柄に好感を持っていたという強みがあったと思います。どのチームにも、そうした関係があるわけではありません。ただ、協力するために友人である必要はないと、ナイラは改めて教えてくれます。相手の言葉で話すことを学べば、橋を架けることはできるのです。

レギュレーションE、対応期限、そしてコンプライアンスが会員の利益につながる理由

ゲームの中で、私はナイラにある状況を提示しました。顧客が、身に覚えのない送金について、自分は承認していないと異議を申し立てたというものです。ナイラによると、レギュレーションE(Reg E)に基づく異議申し立てへの対応には、厳格な期限があります。コンプライアンス部門は、通知の状況や暫定的な返金が期限内に行われているかを確認します。不正対策部門は、調査の進捗や不正のパターン、加盟店がほかの顧客にも同じことをしていないかを確認します。10日間の調査期間と45日間の対応期限が、金融機関を守ると同時に会員も守る仕組みになっているのは、良いことだと思います。また、こうした期限は、チームの業務負荷が限界に達している箇所を明らかにすることもあります。3人で1日50件の案件に対応しているなら、コンプライアンス部門は人員などのリソースの増強や新たなテクノロジーの導入を働きかけることができます。ナイラは、Reg Eが、銀行による消費者への不当な扱いを防ぐための消費者保護法であることを改めて教えてくれました。コンプライアンスは、あら探しをして告げ口することではありません。より良い組織文化を築くことなのです。

1台の端末、十数個のアカウント、そしてコンプライアンスの意義

次に取り上げたのは、1台の端末から1時間に十数個のアカウントにログインするというシナリオでした。ナイラの答えは、不正対策とコンプライアンスの両方が関わるというものでした。不正対策部門はそれを検知してパターンを追跡し、コンプライアンス部門は、より大きな問題につながっていないかを確認しようとします。私は、商品のリスクを把握するためにも、コンプライアンス部門にこの情報を共有する必要があると付け加えました。また、現行のプロセスで誰かがこうした行為を止められるのか、チームとして確認する必要もあるでしょう。ベンダーが検知できるのかというシンプルな問いをきっかけに、決済チームや、さらにはベンダーとの関係管理まで関わってくる可能性があります。また、ここでいうコンプライアンスが何を指すのかも明確にしました。ナイラによると、組織の体制によっては、法令遵守、消費者保護に関するコンプライアンス、融資に関するコンプライアンスに加え、銀行秘密法(BSA)対応、リスク管理、場合によっては不正対策も含まれるとのことです。

資金の入出金と、グレーゾーンを誰が担当するのか

最後のシナリオは、明確な目的もなく、入金された資金がすぐに出金されるというものでした。コンプライアンス部門は取引監視の観点から捉え、不正対策部門はマネーミュール(資金運び屋)として利用されるリスクに着目します。ナイラによれば、どちらが対応するかは方針次第です。BSA(銀行秘密法)対応方針か不正対策方針のいずれかで、どの部門が責任を持つのかを明確にする必要があります。また、それぞれが異なるリスクを扱うため、両部門がともに対応を担う場合もあります。私は、ポケットに現金3万ドルを入れて来店した会員のことを思い出しました。私は法執行機関に連絡したいと思いましたが、ナイラは、まず取引パターンを把握する必要があるとして、それに反対しました。取引は本人の承認を得ていたため、厳密には不正には当たりませんでした。次のステップは、そのパターンを特定し、報告することでした。これには、BSA対応として現金入金に関する通貨取引報告書(CTR)を提出することも含まれます。私は、一つの金融機関の一つの口座だけを見ていて、全体像に目を向けていなかったことに気づきました。法執行機関や規制当局が、それぞれの持つ情報を結び付けられるよう支援できれば、私たちは自分たちの役割を果たしているのです。

ルールをわかりやすい言葉で説明する

ナイラは、規制をわかりやすい言葉で説明するのがとても上手です。規制に実際に何が書かれているのかを確認する必要があるとき、私はいつも彼女に尋ねていました。自分で読んでも、まるで知らない言語を解読しているようだったからです。彼女がコンプライアンスの分野に足を踏み入れたのは11年前のこと。初めてこの分野に携わる人なら誰でも圧倒されることがあり、特に社内のほかの人たちにすべてを説明する役割を期待されるコンプライアンス担当者にとっては、なおさらだと彼女は言います。だからこそ、信用組合で不正対策、銀行秘密法(BSA)対応、コンプライアンスに携わる人たちにとって、わかりやすい説明が重要なのです。あるチームが別のチームに「なぜそうするのか」を説明できれば、ルールは曖昧で中身の見えないものではなくなります。

重要なポイント
  • 不正対策チームとコンプライアンスチームが連携することで、特に高齢者を狙った経済的搾取や個人情報の盗用の事案において、業務の重複を防ぐことができます。
  • ルールが設けられた理由を理解すれば、それに沿って業務を進めやすくなります。例えば、高齢者への金融搾取の案件を、まず銀行秘密法(BSA)の担当部門で処理するという方針が挙げられます。
  • BSA部門から通常とは異なる取引活動に関する情報提供を受けることで、不正対策部門は、BSA部門では手を出せない口座に対して措置を講じられる場合があります。
  • 協力するために友人になる必要はありませんが、相手のチームが使う言葉を理解する必要はあります。
  • レギュレーションEに基づく異議申し立てには対応期限があり、コンプライアンス部門が通知や暫定的な返金の実施時期を管理する一方、不正対策部門は不正のパターンを調査します。
  • Reg Eは会員を保護するための消費者保護規則であり、チームに追加のリソースが必要な状況を明らかにすることもあります。
  • 1台のデバイスから多数のアカウントへのログインがあった場合、不正対策部門とコンプライアンス部門の双方がその事実を把握する必要があり、ベンダーとの連携が解決の一助となる可能性があります。
  • コンプライアンスの対象には、組織の構成に応じて、銀行秘密法(BSA)への対応、リスク管理、消費者保護、融資に関する法令遵守、場合によっては不正対策も含まれます。
  • 入金後すぐに出金される資金については、不正対策部門はマネーミュールのリスクとして捉え、コンプライアンス部門はモニタリングの対象として捉えるため、どの部門が対応責任を負うのかを方針で明確にする必要があります。
  • 本人が承認した取引は、厳密には不正取引には該当しません。その取引パターンを特定して報告することで、法執行機関が個々の情報を結び付け、全体像を把握する助けになります。
まとめ

BSA規制への対応と不正対策をつなぐ最善の方法は、「なぜそうするのか」を説明することです。障害に思えるルールも、その背景にある理由がわかれば行動指針になります。また、曖昧な領域も、誰が責任を持つのかを方針で明確にすれば、対処できるようになります。ナイラと私は共に働く中でそれを学びましたし、どの不正対策チームやコンプライアンスチームにも同じことができると思います。まずは案件を1件引き継ぐこと、共通の事例を1つ検討すること、あるいは対応期限について一度話し合うことから始めてみてください。皆さんが守る会員の方々にも、その違いは伝わるはずです。

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Episode transcript
Smiling blonde woman in a black blazer with arms crossed, standing in a room with a "LIVE ON AIR" neon sign.
Hailey Windham
00:06
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Hailey Windham
00:09
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Hailey Windham
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Hailey Windham
00:15
Both of these say Sardine.
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Nyla Cortes
00:19
Look at that.
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Hailey Windham
00:20
Look at that.
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Nyla Cortes
00:21
Look at that.
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Hailey Windham
00:22
Reunited. And it feels so good.
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Hailey Windham
00:23
We're getting the band back together. Oh, so glad you're here.
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Hailey Windham
00:27
Um, yeah.
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Hailey Windham
00:28
I I always uh love having you on normally, but this
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Hailey Windham
00:32
this moment just feels a little extra special.
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Nyla Cortes
00:35
It really does. I'm so excited to be here, Hailey.
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Hailey Windham
00:41
It kind of brings back some old memories.
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Nyla Cortes
00:44
Oh,
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Hailey Windham
00:45
You and I. Uh for those of you that do not know, and only the OG
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Nyla Cortes
00:50
OG OG
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Hailey Windham
00:51
OG OG uh fans of the show, um and not this show will know.
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Hailey Windham
00:54
Um Nyla and I um when we formerly worked together
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Hailey Windham
00:58
at a credit union, we had our own podcast.
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Nyla Cortes
01:04
We sure did.
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Hailey Windham
01:04
And it was called Hailey Windham and Nyla Cortes (1:06): The TEA
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Hailey Windham
01:08
Um and it stood for training, education, and awareness.
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Nyla Cortes
01:11
Yup
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Hailey Windham
01:12
We did it also because for two reasons.
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Hailey Windham
01:14
One, we were the fastest friends ever in the work environment.
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Hailey Windham
01:18
Like you guys, this one I started working in uh November and
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Hailey Windham
01:22
then they did secret Santa and she was my secret Santa.
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Nyla Cortes
01:27
I was
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Hailey Windham
01:28
It was the sweetest thing.
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Nyla Cortes
01:29
Actually, she was my secret Santa.
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Hailey Windham
01:31
Oh yeah. Yeah.
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Nyla Cortes
01:31
Yeah.
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Hailey Windham
01:32
Either way.
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Hailey Windham
01:32
Um and I would come in daily and there'd be these little
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Hailey Windham
01:35
things on my desk and I was like, "Oh my god, somebody
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Hailey Windham
01:38
loves me and they don't even know me. "
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Nyla Cortes
01:40
I loved her. We literally were desk mates.
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Hailey Windham
01:43
Yeah.
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Hailey Windham
01:43
Like literally I if we heard a conversation that we wanted to roll
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Hailey Windham
01:47
our roll our eyes about we'd lean back and look at each other and
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Hailey Windham
01:51
you know you you know you have those um those are the best.
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Hailey Windham
01:54
So okay we had the TEA and we have a commercial that
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Hailey Windham
01:57
I'm hoping we're going to be able to input here.
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Nyla Cortes
02:00
Oh yes.
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Nyla Cortes
02:03
Welcome to THE TEA where we steep down the compliance jargon into real
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Hailey Windham
02:06
Nyla. Nyla
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Nyla Cortes
02:08
What? What?
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Hailey Windham
02:09
You forgot about fraud.
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Hailey Windham
02:10
We have to spill the tea on all things fraud.
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Nyla Cortes
02:13
Oh my gosh, you are right. Okay, we do talk about fraud, too.
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Nyla Cortes
02:16
I'm so sorry. Okay, let me start again.
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Nyla Cortes
02:19
Welcome to THE TEA, where we steep down compliance
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Nyla Cortes
02:22
and fraud jargon into real world understanding. My name is Nyla
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Hailey Windham
02:26
And my name is Hailey.
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Hailey Windham
02:27
We are your hosts of this employee exclusive podcast. ]
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Hailey Windham
02:34
Okay, so you guys just heard it.
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Hailey Windham
02:35
So, that was where we spilled the or we What is that?
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Hailey Windham
02:38
We turned we spilled the tea for sure, but then we turned
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Hailey Windham
02:41
compliance and fraud jargon Hailey Windham and Nyla
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Hailey Windham
02:44
Cortes (2:49): Into real world understanding.
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Hailey Windham
02:47
Um, which is what we are doing now obviously.
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Hailey Windham
02:49
Um, and again, just so excited to have you back on.
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Hailey Windham
02:52
We'll be doing some things together obviously.
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Hailey Windham
02:55
Um, and then there will be a few things
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Hailey Windham
02:58
that you'll be doing on your own. So, I would love to know.
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Hailey Windham
03:01
Um, let's see. Uh, we did have a couple of fun things.
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Hailey Windham
03:05
Um, so if THE TEA had a theme song, what would it have been?
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Hailey Windham
03:08
And what do you think about that?
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Nyla Cortes
03:11
At the time, I really think that our theme song would
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Nyla Cortes
03:13
have been the Scooby-Doo intro theme song.
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Hailey Windham
03:15
Oh, I love that.
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Nyla Cortes
03:17
We mo more Hailey than I, but we were
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Nyla Cortes
03:19
very in depth into the Scooby-Doo.
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Nyla Cortes
03:21
I mean, if any of you obviously watching her podcasts or any of her
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Nyla Cortes
03:25
um Friday 5 minutes of fraud, you see Scooby in the background.
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Nyla Cortes
03:29
You know, it used to be an even bigger thing that it is now.
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Nyla Cortes
03:33
Um, this girl used to give out Scooby snacks to people
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Nyla Cortes
03:37
that were able to um detect or even prevent fraud from
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Nyla Cortes
03:40
happening in the branches at our credit union. It was just so amazing.
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Hailey Windham
03:45
He's a cultural icon.
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Hailey Windham
03:46
Um, and he taught me uh, you know, monsters are just
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Hailey Windham
03:49
people hiding behind mask and what's the difference
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Hailey Windham
03:52
with a fraudster hiding behind a computer screen.
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Nyla Cortes
03:55
So true.
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Hailey Windham
03:56
You know, um, so I'm I'm out to prove a point
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Hailey Windham
03:58
and Scooby's going to help that out.
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Hailey Windham
04:00
I mean, it it's amazing what a little bit of appreciation will
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Hailey Windham
04:04
do for your team and and you know, that's one of those things,
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Hailey Windham
04:07
too, where you kind of go where where you're needed.
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Hailey Windham
04:10
Um, and when unfortunately, and we're no longer at that
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Hailey Windham
04:13
credit union, but we know we've left it in good hands with
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Hailey Windham
04:16
with some of the things that we've put in place.
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Hailey Windham
04:19
Um, and then, um, I was going to say, uh, also for a theme
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Hailey Windham
04:22
song, do you remember Robin Big from MTV when they did
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Hailey Windham
04:25
their people, let me tell you about my best friend?
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Hailey Windham
04:28
That's what I thought it was going to be.
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Hailey Windham
04:30
But, um, but Scooby-Doo works, too. That's a good one.
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Nyla Cortes
04:34
Um, that could be yours. That could be yours.
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Hailey Windham
04:37
Okay.
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Hailey Windham
04:38
Um, and then who, um, let's see, who was
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Hailey Windham
04:40
our most loyal listener um, back then?
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Nyla Cortes
04:44
Oh my goodness. Okay. I definitely think it was Dylan.
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Nyla Cortes
04:47
Ugh, I love Dylan.
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Hailey Windham
04:51
Dylan, we miss you so much.
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Nyla Cortes
04:52
We miss you, Dylan.
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Nyla Cortes
04:53
Dylan was our biggest supporter, our biggest advocate.
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Nyla Cortes
04:56
Just from day one, she was so excited for us when we launched
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Nyla Cortes
05:00
THE TEA at our credit union and she listened every
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Nyla Cortes
05:04
single week and she just gave the best feedback.
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Nyla Cortes
05:07
She was so supportive of us. I We miss you so much, Dylan.
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Hailey Windham
05:13
We so miss you.
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Nyla Cortes
05:15
We hope you're, I hope you're doing good, Dylan.
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Hailey Windham
05:17
Yes. Yes. And uh which fun fact, Dylan went on to be a trainer.
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Nyla Cortes
05:21
Yes, she did.
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Hailey Windham
05:22
She went from fraud to being a trainer.
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Hailey Windham
05:24
Um and I loved watching her grow. That is just
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Nyla Cortes
05:28
She's an amazing trainer.
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Hailey Windham
05:30
One of those one of those full circle moments.
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Hailey Windham
05:31
And we're so proud of you.
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Nyla Cortes
05:32
We're so proud of you, Dylan.
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Hailey Windham
05:33
And now we're back here and we get to talk about you because
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Hailey Windham
05:36
people know you and now they'll want to know you.
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Nyla Cortes
05:39
Okay. All right. Now, I have a question for you, Hailey.
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Hailey Windham
05:41
Okay.
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Nyla Cortes
05:43
I have really always wondered this. Okay.
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Nyla Cortes
05:45
What is one moment in your career where someone made
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Nyla Cortes
05:49
the rules feel just extremely clear for you?
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Hailey Windham
05:54
I could count the ways that they weren't they weren't extremely
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Nyla Cortes
05:56
I think we all can count those ways. I was like multiple hands.
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Hailey Windham
06:01
Multiple hands.
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Hailey Windham
06:02
Um I can remember a time when you me and Dylan argued about reg e.
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Nyla Cortes
06:07
I mean countless times. Speaking of Dylan.
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Hailey Windham
06:10
Yeah, speaking of.
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Hailey Windham
06:11
Um so there were a couple of times in my career that um you know
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Hailey Windham
06:15
the rules still kind of felt like this gray box of like we know we
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Hailey Windham
06:19
know these are the rules but we don't know why they're the rules.
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Hailey Windham
06:24
Um and for me being someone that's kind of really hands-on a visual
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Hailey Windham
06:28
learner but also someone that I I have to have that practical
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Hailey Windham
06:32
understanding of something that's really hard for me.
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Nyla Cortes
06:37
Yeah.
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Hailey Windham
06:38
Um, and it's one that caused me a lot of uh grief in
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Hailey Windham
06:40
my career because I would spend the time arguing my
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Hailey Windham
06:43
point of like, "No, this is how I interpret it.
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Hailey Windham
06:46
" Because in plain English to me, this is what it says.
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Hailey Windham
06:49
But then to have someone who wouldn't like explain
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Hailey Windham
06:52
it and just say, "No, this is wrong.
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Hailey Windham
06:54
This is what you're supposed to do.
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Hailey Windham
06:56
" Versus having someone that would take the time.
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Hailey Windham
06:59
So, I don't want this to be a cliche episode, but there was
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Hailey Windham
07:02
this person that I worked with who was a desk mate.
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Hailey Windham
07:05
Um who I'm sitting with right now.
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Hailey Windham
07:07
That I just remember, you know, we were I think
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Hailey Windham
07:10
it was a one of the elder fraud cases we were working
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Hailey Windham
07:13
uh through our case management system.
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Hailey Windham
07:15
And I just remember like as a fraud person, I was
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Hailey Windham
07:18
like I we have to do something about this.
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Hailey Windham
07:20
But unfortunately, the way that our process was the elder
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Hailey Windham
07:24
financial exploitation went directly through BSA.
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Nyla Cortes
07:27
That's right.
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Hailey Windham
07:28
And so it would come through you guys.
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Hailey Windham
07:30
And then from there you would, you know, do
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Hailey Windham
07:32
adult protective services or whatever.
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Hailey Windham
07:34
But then on my side, I had a hard time understanding
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Hailey Windham
07:37
why I couldn't be more involved.
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Hailey Windham
07:39
And then when you and I were able to like collaborate on
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Hailey Windham
07:42
like what could be why I couldn't do something in the beginning
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Hailey Windham
07:46
versus being able to say, Hey, you know what?
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Hailey Windham
07:48
Now that we're aware of this, BSA is going to actually
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Hailey Windham
07:52
inform fraud, to say, Hey, this is a we know
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Hailey Windham
07:54
that this is elder financial exploitation.
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Hailey Windham
07:56
We know that this person is a vulnerable adult.
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Hailey Windham
07:59
We have contacted adult check services and all the things.
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Hailey Windham
08:02
However, the account is still open, still being used.
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Nyla Cortes
08:06
Yep.
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Hailey Windham
08:07
We on BSA side can't touch it.
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Nyla Cortes
08:09
Yeah.
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Hailey Windham
08:10
But fraud, here's your unusual activity referral.
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Hailey Windham
08:12
Now, you can do something about it.
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Hailey Windham
08:14
And so having it where I knew I couldn't step in immediately.
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Hailey Windham
08:18
I had to wait on that and getting that explanation from you
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Hailey Windham
08:21
of like, hey, no, because the policy states this, it has to
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Hailey Windham
08:24
come through me first, but I will refer it over to you.
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Hailey Windham
08:27
Let me know that like, hey, there it's not just going to fall
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Hailey Windham
08:31
into this box of uh, you know, maybe a SAR gets filed, maybe
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Hailey Windham
08:34
it doesn't, maybe they get called, maybe they don't.
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Hailey Windham
08:37
I will have the opportunity to intervene.
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Hailey Windham
08:39
And so that was that was one of those moments for me that it it
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Hailey Windham
08:43
took being able to understand why the rule was the way that it was.
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Hailey Windham
08:47
Um that that made it a way for me to move kind of forward. I guess
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Nyla Cortes
08:51
That's really nice.
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Nyla Cortes
08:51
Honestly, to everyone listening, I did not expect her to say me. Um,
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Hailey Windham
08:55
What would you expect I mean,
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Nyla Cortes
08:58
No, truly like I I was honestly just using it as a segue
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Nyla Cortes
09:01
because I that is literally what I am all about and I'm
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Nyla Cortes
09:05
so happy that I was able to provide that for you.
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Nyla Cortes
09:08
Because not only the connection between fraud and BSA teams being
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Nyla Cortes
09:13
still extremely just there the two separate entities are so siloed
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Nyla Cortes
09:17
um and there's really no conversation happening between the two.
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Nyla Cortes
09:21
So in cases of um elder financial exploitation or identity
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09:25
theft where a lot of the cases really do cross over between
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Nyla Cortes
09:29
BSA and fraud and there is no conversation happening.
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Nyla Cortes
09:33
It makes it extremely hard not just on the BSA
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09:36
side but on the fraud side too on both teams.
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Nyla Cortes
09:39
Everyone's doing double work. Nobody wants to do double work.
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Nyla Cortes
09:43
So I am just so glad that I was able to do that for you.
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Nyla Cortes
09:46
But also what made that whole that whole process so easy was that
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09:51
you were so open to collaborating and bridging the gap the tea.
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Hailey Windham
09:56
That was our slogan
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Nyla Cortes
09:57
Yeah, that was the slogan. Bridging the gap. Yep.
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09:59
Bridging the gap between BSA and fraud. And it's I'm just so happy.
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Nyla Cortes
10:03
I'm just so happy that that was a good moment for you.
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Hailey Windham
10:07
Absolutely.
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Hailey Windham
10:07
And I think that was one thing you and I have talked about it
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Hailey Windham
10:11
before on a previous podcast where it was, you know, do you think
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Hailey Windham
10:14
that we were kind of at an advantage that other teams don't
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Hailey Windham
10:18
get because we liked the person behind the process first.
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Hailey Windham
10:21
Um whereas if you do have uh you know where maybe you don't have
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Hailey Windham
10:24
the same personality as your BSA officer or or your compliance team
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Hailey Windham
10:28
or your internal audit and you feel like they are kind of
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Hailey Windham
10:31
untouchable, unfriendly, like they live in their little department.
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Hailey Windham
10:35
I I always thought maybe we were at just in a little bit of an
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Hailey Windham
10:39
advantage because it was like, well, I I like this person.
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Hailey Windham
10:42
I want to number one be our friend. I want to be helpful.
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Hailey Windham
10:45
Do we have that across every department with everybody?
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Hailey Windham
10:48
And sometimes we don't.
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Nyla Cortes
10:50
Sometimes we really don't. But you know what?
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Nyla Cortes
10:52
Just because friendship isn't on the table
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Nyla Cortes
10:55
doesn't mean collaboration can't be.
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Nyla Cortes
10:57
And I think if you just learn to speak the other person's
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Nyla Cortes
11:00
language, you can always build that build that bridge.
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Hailey Windham
11:04
So true. Okay. So, let's play a game.
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Hailey Windham
11:06
Um, so we're going to do fraud or compliance. You answer.
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Hailey Windham
11:09
I'm going to give you some scenarios.
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Nyla Cortes
11:12
Okay.
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Hailey Windham
11:13
So, one device logs into a dozen accounts in an hour.
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Hailey Windham
11:16
Fraud spots it, compliance work wants to know
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Hailey Windham
11:19
if it ties to a pattern worth reviewing.
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Nyla Cortes
11:23
That's so hard.
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Nyla Cortes
11:23
And I think it really just plays into because I you have a you
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Nyla Cortes
11:27
have a case for either side, fraud or compliance on this.
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Nyla Cortes
11:30
I honestly think both. Like but seriously.
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Nyla Cortes
11:33
And I know people are like, Oh yeah, you
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Nyla Cortes
11:35
guys were just talking about that. Roll my eyes.
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Nyla Cortes
11:38
But like seriously, both need to be involved in this
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Nyla Cortes
11:41
because as you stated in your question, compliance
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Nyla Cortes
11:44
wants to know if it ties to a pattern, right?
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Nyla Cortes
11:46
And fraud, they're the one that spots it and they're also
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Nyla Cortes
11:49
the ones that track the actual pattern itself and they're
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Nyla Cortes
11:53
also the ones that need to know because if it's a bigger
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Nyla Cortes
11:56
thing than it actually just this one instance,
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Hailey Windham
11:59
Right?
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Hailey Windham
11:59
Yeah, that's I think it's important to make sure that
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Hailey Windham
12:02
there is that understanding between the two of like,
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Hailey Windham
12:04
hey, here's something that I've spotted.
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Hailey Windham
12:06
Here's a way that I'm kind of intervening, but at
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Hailey Windham
12:08
the same time, you as compliance need to know about
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Hailey Windham
12:11
it to understand the risk of the product.
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Nyla Cortes
12:13
Yep.
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Hailey Windham
12:14
Um, and also to understand, hey, right now, our
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Hailey Windham
12:16
current processes don't allow for interjection
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Hailey Windham
12:19
or they don't allow us to stop something.
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Hailey Windham
12:21
Can we work together to to fix that?
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Hailey Windham
12:23
Can we bring in the payment team to let them look
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Hailey Windham
12:26
to see about their current process as well?
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Hailey Windham
12:28
Like when they spot something or maybe it's even tying it back
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Hailey Windham
12:32
to the vendor relationship of, hey, this is this is abnormal.
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Hailey Windham
12:35
Is this something you can catch?
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Hailey Windham
12:37
And if not, maybe we look to see if there's another alternative.
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Nyla Cortes
12:41
Yeah. Yep. I agree.
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Hailey Windham
12:43
Okay.
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Hailey Windham
12:43
How about um a customer says they never authorized a transfer.
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Nyla Cortes
12:47
Okay.
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Hailey Windham
12:47
Fraud investigates.
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Hailey Windham
12:48
Compliance cares about the clock and the customer's rights.
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Nyla Cortes
12:52
Yes. So we see this it reg e claims, right?
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Nyla Cortes
12:54
This is basic reg e claims.
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Nyla Cortes
12:56
Your compliance is your clock, your timing, are you getting your
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Nyla Cortes
13:00
notices out, are you doing exactly what you need to, are you
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Nyla Cortes
13:04
giving provisional credit in the right amount of time.
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Nyla Cortes
13:07
Fraud is concerned about the investigation.
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Nyla Cortes
13:10
They're concerned about patterns.
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Nyla Cortes
13:12
They're concerned about if the merchant is doing this
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Nyla Cortes
13:16
to multiple other customers at the same time.
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Nyla Cortes
13:19
So another great example of why it's so important certain
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13:22
that compliance and fraud are are in conversation.
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Hailey Windham
13:26
So true. I love that.
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Hailey Windham
13:27
What I also love about that particular scenario is that it's not
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Hailey Windham
13:30
it's almost like that dual control, but um where it's compliance
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Hailey Windham
13:34
isn't coming in to say, "Hey, you didn't do your job right.
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Hailey Windham
13:37
" Compliance is coming in to say, "Hey, our members, our
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Hailey Windham
13:41
customers, first of all, legally, we need to make sure
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Hailey Windham
13:44
that we are complying with the right timelines.
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Hailey Windham
13:47
" But second of all, this is a this is a customer win.
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Hailey Windham
13:50
This is a member win of if we get them their their either
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Hailey Windham
13:53
provisional credit or whatever on time while we conduct our 10-day
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Hailey Windham
13:57
investigation before it turns into a okay, you've got your
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Hailey Windham
14:00
provisional credit, but now we need additional 30 days.
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Hailey Windham
14:03
You know, 45 days, you'll get your answer.
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Hailey Windham
14:06
Um I I like that it's more on making sure that the consumer is
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Hailey Windham
14:09
taken care of um while protecting the financial institution.
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Hailey Windham
14:13
And then sometimes what also comes from that is process efficiency.
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Hailey Windham
14:17
Like you look at it at a thing and you're like, Okay,
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Hailey Windham
14:20
you guys have, you know, 50 cases coming in a day.
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Hailey Windham
14:23
You're a staff of three. You're not meeting the deadlines in time.
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Hailey Windham
14:26
This is another way that compliance can help advocate for either
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Hailey Windham
14:30
additional resources, new tech, anything like that.
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Hailey Windham
14:33
So, I think that's an opportunity where sometimes we forget that.
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Hailey Windham
14:37
Because it kind of feels like you're the older sister and
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Hailey Windham
14:40
you're tattling on me, mom, and I'm really sick of it.
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Hailey Windham
14:43
Like, come on.
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Hailey Windham
14:44
But instead, you're like, No, I I want to help,
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Hailey Windham
14:47
but we have to first accept that that there are
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Hailey Windham
14:49
some some things that we do have a few gaps.
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Hailey Windham
14:52
There are a few vulnerabilities. Let's address those together.
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Hailey Windham
14:56
And and it becomes a real cultural win,
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Hailey Windham
14:58
I think, for the organization.
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Nyla Cortes
15:00
I I love the way that you said everything because at the end
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Nyla Cortes
15:03
of the day, Reg e is a consumer protection law, right?
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Nyla Cortes
15:07
Like reg e, as much as we all hate it in this space, we hate it.
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Nyla Cortes
15:11
We hate all the rules, all of the nitty-grittiness, all
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Nyla Cortes
15:15
the little details that come with reg e and how much
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Nyla Cortes
15:18
we truly just it can grate on investigators nerves.
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Nyla Cortes
15:21
It is at the end of the day a consumer protection law put
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Nyla Cortes
15:25
into place so that banks are not wronging the consumer.
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Hailey Windham
15:29
Yeah. Yeah.
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Nyla Cortes
15:30
You know,
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Hailey Windham
15:31
Love that.
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Hailey Windham
15:32
And and I think that it shows just the the overall
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Hailey Windham
15:35
uh responsibility of the organization too.
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Hailey Windham
15:38
Um and and for clarity on this uh episode when we
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Hailey Windham
15:41
say compliance what department are we saying? What is compliance?
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Hailey Windham
15:45
What is represented in that compliance?
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Nyla Cortes
15:49
Yeah, compliance bubble can be BSA compliance. It can be risk.
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Nyla Cortes
15:53
It could be sometimes fraud in some cases.
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Nyla Cortes
15:55
Um just depends on your organization itself and how it's structured.
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Nyla Cortes
16:00
Um, but yeah, big at the end of the day, regulatory compliance,
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Nyla Cortes
16:04
consumer protection compliance, lending compliance, risk management,
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Nyla Cortes
16:09
all of those kind of fall under our compliance bubble.
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Hailey Windham
16:13
Love that. Okay. Uh, last last little scenario for you.
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Hailey Windham
16:16
So, money comes in and goes straight
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Hailey Windham
16:18
back out with no clear purpose.
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Nyla Cortes
16:20
Okay.
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Hailey Windham
16:20
Compliance sees monitoring,
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Nyla Cortes
16:23
Right
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Hailey Windham
16:23
Uh, fraud teams see mule risk.
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Nyla Cortes
16:26
Yes.
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Hailey Windham
16:27
Um, I know you and I specifically have this
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Hailey Windham
16:29
exact scenario come up in our path.
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Hailey Windham
16:32
Um, so I'd love I'd love to hear your thoughts here.
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Nyla Cortes
16:36
Yes. So, this is one where the hair will always be split.
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Hailey Windham
16:44
Yeah.
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Nyla Cortes
16:45
I don't think that either team is going to really agree.
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Nyla Cortes
16:47
And I think what's really going to drive this decision
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Nyla Cortes
16:50
for any organization is going to be your policy.
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Hailey Windham
16:53
Yeah.
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Nyla Cortes
16:54
Um, it's one of those scenarios where it has to be defined very
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Nyla Cortes
16:58
clearly in your policy what it is, whether that's your BSA policy
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Nyla Cortes
17:02
or whether that's your fraud policy, who owns it, right?
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Nyla Cortes
17:05
And I hate that, you know I I want to say again
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Nyla Cortes
17:09
that both kind of hold the umbrella or hold the
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Nyla Cortes
17:12
torch for this because it's a different risk.
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Hailey Windham
17:15
Yeah.
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Nyla Cortes
17:16
Until you have more evidence leaning more one way than the other.
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Hailey Windham
17:21
Yeah.
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Hailey Windham
17:22
Uh, from the fraud side, I can remember arguing, "But I know
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Hailey Windham
17:26
that they're doing something nefarious with this money. "
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17:30
We all know,
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17:31
Like, why is he coming in with $30,000 of cash in his pocket?
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Nyla Cortes
17:36
Yeah.
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Hailey Windham
17:36
It's not in a zipper bag. It's literally bills in his pocket.
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Hailey Windham
17:40
It's not making sense.
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Hailey Windham
17:41
Um, and I'm like I can remember literally
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17:44
going, "I think we should call the law.
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Hailey Windham
17:46
" And you're like, "No, we shouldn't.
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Nyla Cortes
17:50
No, we should not.
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Hailey Windham
17:51
You're like, This is not going to help anybody if we do that
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Hailey Windham
17:54
right now because we have to understand the pattern.
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Hailey Windham
17:57
We've got to make sure that like, hey,
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17:59
maybe this is a one-off thing.
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Hailey Windham
18:01
But if it in the event that it's not a one-off
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Hailey Windham
18:04
thing, this could lead to something bigger.
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Hailey Windham
18:06
And that was one of the biggest lessons that you taught me because
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Hailey Windham
18:10
I remember, you know, when I finally got the authority within my
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Hailey Windham
18:14
role to uh prevent and and intervene, I was like, Shut it off.
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Hailey Windham
18:17
Convenient service. They don't need that. They don't need that.
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Hailey Windham
18:21
And so for these particular types of scenarios where money
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Hailey Windham
18:24
is coming in, we have no real explanation, we know in like
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Hailey Windham
18:27
our heart of hearts something nefarious is going on.
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Nyla Cortes
18:31
Yes.
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Hailey Windham
18:31
But we can't prove that the number one the money is not theirs.
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Hailey Windham
18:34
Number two, like if we define what fraud is, right?
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Hailey Windham
18:37
A fraud being taken without authorization.
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Hailey Windham
18:40
But you've got an actual customer member that's
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Hailey Windham
18:43
walking in with a handful of cash. They leave.
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Hailey Windham
18:46
They are transacting through their online banking,
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Hailey Windham
18:49
through their debit card, whatever.
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Hailey Windham
18:51
We can see that it is actual authorized transaction.
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Hailey Windham
18:54
There is no technical fraud.
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Hailey Windham
18:55
Maybe something nefarious is happening, but we have
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Hailey Windham
18:59
to first identify a pattern, report it, and what you
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Hailey Windham
19:02
guys are filing your CTRs and things like that.
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Hailey Windham
19:04
But for me, that was one of those light bulb moments of,
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19:08
hey, you know, Hailey, you're a bigger picture person.
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Hailey Windham
19:11
Like, you like to think holistically.
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Hailey Windham
19:13
You're not thinking holistically right now.
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Hailey Windham
19:16
You're thinking of the individual account at this individual
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Hailey Windham
19:20
financial institution and not the overall you know broad
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Hailey Windham
19:23
ecosystem of what else is happening after this.
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Hailey Windham
19:26
So if we can help law enforcement or the regulators whoever I
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Hailey Windham
19:29
identify what's going on and they can connect pieces on their
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Hailey Windham
19:33
side then we're doing our part that actually is helping.
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Nyla Cortes
19:37
Yes. Yes. I agree.
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Fraud fighters if you're anything like me, your
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list of things to read keeps growing.
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Your time to read them though, probably not so much.
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That's why I write the Monday Fraud Fix.
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It's the newsletter companion to Fraud Forward.
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So, every Monday I'm sharing fraud trends that made me pause,
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what I'm reading, conversations happening in our community,
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and the fraud fighters that I think you should know.
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I also bring my take, you know, what it means for the people
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doing this work, and the questions we need to be asking.
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little Scooby snack to start your week.
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the link in the episode show notes and subscribe.
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Hailey Windham
20:20
Okay, so Nyla, obviously we're going to wrap this up because
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20:23
we are live at Money 2020, but I have it on good authority
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20:27
that there is a an announcement coming.
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20:29
So, and we're going to use a Fraud Forward, Thank you, by the way.
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Hailey Windham
20:33
Um, as your announcement uh platform
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Nyla Cortes
20:36
Yes the exclusive so
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Hailey Windham
20:38
I'm getting the exclusive. I told you I needed that press badge.
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Nyla Cortes
20:42
Here's your exclusive Money 2020 on the Fraud Forward podcast
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Nyla Cortes
20:46
because let's be honest, Hailey is my best friend.
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Nyla Cortes
20:49
So, there was no one else that I could honestly announce this with.
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Hailey Windham
20:54
I feel like I need to do one more little take here and go.
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Hailey Windham
20:57
Okay, this is your exclusive big news happening
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Hailey Windham
20:59
here live on Fraud Forward in Money 2020. All right, Nyla, go.
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Hailey Windham
21:02
What is your big news?
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Nyla Cortes
21:04
Oh my gosh. Okay, my news.
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Nyla Cortes
21:05
I am just so excited and so nervous because this has been
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Nyla Cortes
21:09
something that I've been working towards for years. For years.
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Nyla Cortes
21:13
And I am just so excited to announce that I am
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Nyla Cortes
21:16
launching a podcast just like Fraud Forward.
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Nyla Cortes
21:19
Um, but for me, it's going to be called Regulated with Nyla Cortes.
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Nyla Cortes
21:24
We're going to be covering everything BSA regulations,
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Nyla Cortes
21:27
consumer protection regulations. I am just at risk.
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Nyla Cortes
21:31
Oh, all everything that I just my bread and butter.
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Nyla Cortes
21:34
If you know me, you know.
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Nyla Cortes
21:36
Um I just I love making something that can be so complicated
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21:40
and feels so out of reach for so many people, feel
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21:43
just so broken down and so easy to understand.
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Nyla Cortes
21:46
And I I I just I'm so excited.
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Hailey Windham
21:53
Yeah, you have a really great way of doing that.
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Hailey Windham
21:55
I'm very excited for this.
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Hailey Windham
21:57
You're uh one of the first people that I talked
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22:00
to Sardine about when they were like, "Hailey,
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22:02
do you uh do anything on compliance in BSA?
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22:05
" And I was like, "I can talk fraud compliance.
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Hailey Windham
22:08
" Um but as far as like reading those very long boring
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Hailey Windham
22:11
documents, that's not that's not a Hailey thing.
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Hailey Windham
22:14
Um but I know I know someone. Um and so I love that.
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Hailey Windham
22:17
But also like just as a as a normal practitioner,
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22:20
you were that for me.
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Hailey Windham
22:21
I had a very hard time digesting regulations and understanding what
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Hailey Windham
22:25
our role was, what my particular role was in in any instance.
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Hailey Windham
22:29
And so whenever I would have to revert
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22:31
back to, well, what does the reg say? What is this?
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Hailey Windham
22:34
I'd go, hey, Nyla, what does that reg say?
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22:36
Like I'll read it on this paper, but let me tell
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Hailey Windham
22:39
you, it's like translating Greek to me.
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Hailey Windham
22:41
I feel like, you know, Percy Jackson whenever
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22:44
he's like looking at the the Greek side.
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Nyla Cortes
22:47
That's how so many people feel. That is how so many people feel.
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22:50
And that's why I'm that's why Regulated is coming to fruition.
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22:54
Because I will be not humble in saying that I have a gift in really
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22:58
translating all of those regulations down into plain English.
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23:01
And I am just I'm so excited to help the
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Nyla Cortes
23:03
next generation of compliance people.
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Hailey Windham
23:06
Yeah. So who who was or who is Regulated uh for?
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Hailey Windham
23:09
Who's that audience?
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Nyla Cortes
23:12
It's for your compliance analysts. It's for your compliance officers.
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Nyla Cortes
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It's for your BSA people.
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Nyla Cortes
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It's for the new people walking into this space.
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Nyla Cortes
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You know, I I walked into the compliance world 11 years
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23:24
ago and I you you would think I was like one of those
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23:28
cartoons with my eyes bugging out of my head.
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Nyla Cortes
23:31
Because it is that intimidating. It is that scary.
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Nyla Cortes
23:34
And then to hold the title of compliance officer and just
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23:38
truly be the person that your organization is relying on
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23:41
to know and to understand and to break these down and explain
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23:45
it in plain English to the rest of the company.
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Nyla Cortes
23:48
That is so intimidating and so incredibly hard.
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23:51
And part of the reason why so many compliance officers have
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23:55
such a hard time integrating and staying in compliance.
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Nyla Cortes
23:59
Because it just is that hard.
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Hailey Windham
24:01
It is. It is.
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Hailey Windham
24:01
So being able to have someone that could turn those
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Hailey Windham
24:05
uh compliance jargon Hailey Windham and Nyla Cortes
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Hailey Windham
24:08
(24:08): Into real world understanding
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Hailey Windham
24:11
Um I think it's great.
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Hailey Windham
24:12
Um so uh I just want to ask about like format.
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Hailey Windham
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What is um you know how how is it different from the
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Hailey Windham
24:17
compliance content that's already out there?
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Nyla Cortes
24:20
Yeah. So um this is going to be on a more reachable platform.
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Nyla Cortes
24:23
Uh we're doing not only the Regulated podcast,
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but I will also be doing blogs and articles.
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Nyla Cortes
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Um breaking down not just um what's coming and
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Nyla Cortes
24:31
what are the regulators talking about. But also past regulations.
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Nyla Cortes
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Like we were just talking about reg e earlier and how
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nitty-gritty that one is and how hard and difficult
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Nyla Cortes
24:41
and tedious that one is to really understand.
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Nyla Cortes
24:44
So taking the time to go back to the beginning and break those down.
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Nyla Cortes
24:48
We're also doing webinars.
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Nyla Cortes
24:50
I'll be at conferences just like this at Money2020.
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Nyla Cortes
24:53
Um, and I am just so excited.
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Hailey Windham
24:55
Uh, we're so excited to have you.
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Hailey Windham
24:56
This is a a piece of um our Sardine Media that
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Hailey Windham
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that we've been hoping to expand on.
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Hailey Windham
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Um, and you're the the perfect person for it.
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Hailey Windham
25:03
So, thank you for joining me on Fraud Forward.
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Nyla Cortes
25:06
Thank you so much for having me
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Hailey Windham
25:07
Thank you so much for bringing us this exclusive piece of news.
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Hailey Windham
25:10
Um, and for letting uh my platform be the one to announce it.
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Hailey Windham
25:13
Uh, looking forward to the rest of the conference with you.
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Hailey Windham
25:17
Um, if you are uh a follower of Fraud Forward,
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Hailey Windham
25:19
be sure to check out Regulated with Nyla.
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Hailey Windham
25:21
Uh, we will link her um content, her LinkedIn
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Hailey Windham
25:24
and everything in the show notes.
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Hailey Windham
25:26
And yeah, really looking forward to continuing
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Hailey Windham
25:28
having conversations this week. And thank you again so much.
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Nyla Cortes
25:32
Thank you so much, Hailey.
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Hailey Windham
25:39
Thanks for listening to Fraud Forward.
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Hailey Windham
25:41
Remember, every conversation, every connection, and every insight
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Hailey Windham
25:45
moves our industry one step closer to stronger fraud defenses.
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Hailey Windham
25:49
If today's episode sparked an idea, share
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Hailey Windham
25:52
it with your team or tag me on LinkedIn.
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Hailey Windham
25:55
I love hearing how you're moving Fraud
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Hailey Windham
25:57
Forward in your own organization.
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Hailey Windham
26:00
Until next time, stay curious, stay resilient,
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Hailey Windham
26:03
keep moving Fraud Forward.